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  1. Eddie–you and I just became best friends. :)

    Randy–hehe Good times. We haven’t done that song yet, just because I’m not exactly sure what to do with the ‘sloppy, wet kiss’ line, or whatever. How do you guys do that one?

    Mark–Aw, I thought you meant Bullet the Blue Sky! That’s a worship song, right? ;)

    Jason–I guess it’s getting pretty popular. I like the song, but not sure if I love it yet.

    Dan–absolutely agree. Edge is tasteful even when he solos. Just kills me…in a good way.

    And if Brian Eno came to my church? Whoa! hehe Nice link. Well, I think the answer’s obvious; I mean, after he bought me a plane ticket on the spot to play on the next Coldplay album because he was so moved to tears over my incredibly toneful and soulful guitar playing…… ;) I mean, I would’ve shared the Gospel with him, of course…without any ulterior motives to have him play keys on the worship team. hehe If only I were that pious…seriously.

  2. Getting back to the topic ( briefly ) : Tone, food, water and shelter are among life’s basic necessities. We should add Spiritual Intensity to that list.

    So, diverging again, here is an alternate line to that song How He loves us “So heaven meets earth where no words can express” My congregation doesn’t do sloppy wet kisses either. I’m planning on introducing the song soon. Here’s a bunch more on the song.

    http://www.fredmckinnon.com/myblog/2008/01/25/how-he-loves-us/

    Song: How He Loves Us Jesus Culture Music Album: We Cry Out (2007)
    CAPO 6th FRET
    C Am7 G F (x2)
    C
    He is jealous for me
    Am7
    Love’s like a hurricane, I am a tree
    G F
    Bending beneath the weight of His wind and mercy

    C
    When all of a sudden, I am unaware of these
    Am7
    Afflictions eclipsed by glory
    G
    And I realize just how beautiful You are
    F
    And how great your affections are for me.

    C Am7
    And oh, how He loves us so
    G
    Oh, how He loves us
    F
    How He loves us so.

    C Am7 G F

    C
    He is jealous for me
    Am7
    Love’s like a hurricane, I am a tree
    G F
    Bending beneath the weight of His wind and mercy

    C
    When all of a sudden, I am unaware of these
    Am7
    Afflictions eclipsed by glory
    G
    And I realize just how beautiful You are
    F
    And how great your affections are for me.

    C Am7
    And oh, how He loves us so
    G
    Oh, how He loves us
    F
    How He loves us so.

    C Am7 G F
    C
    Yeah, He loves us
    Am7
    Woah, how He loves us
    G
    Woah, how He loves us
    F
    Woah, how He loves.

    C
    Yeah, He loves us
    Am7
    Woah, how He loves us
    G
    Woah, how He loves us
    F
    Woah, how He loves.

    C
    We are His portion and He is our prize,
    Am7
    Drawn to redemption by the grace in His eyes
    G F
    If grace is an ocean we’re all sinking ha ha

    C
    So heaven meets earth where no words can express
    Am7
    And my heart turns violently inside of my chest
    G
    I don’t have time to maintain these regrets
    F
    When I think about the way

    C
    That, He loves us
    Am7
    Woah, how He loves us
    G
    Woah, how He loves us
    F
    Woah, how He loves.

  3. Very cool. Thanks, bro! I like how you guys changed the lyrics.

    And yes, we should add spiritual passion or intensity to our life’s essentials list. Great point!

    And U2, of course. ;) Somebody’s gotta be with me there, right? lol

  4. wow this u2 group is pretty cool, I should check them out.

    haha jk, at like 3:38 edge makes a face at bono that says “i know you’re cool, but check out this Em run I’m about to melt your face with”

  5. Man, I love this song. I will admit, the first time I heard it, it was actually the POD version from their Southtown album I believe. I was never really a fan of the guitar sound of that band (I liked Truby’s) but that they were/are a fun band to listen to.

    When I heard the original it felt rushed to me, but when I heard it recorded live… wow. I have this DVD and I love it. Powerful stuff.

    Kinda related, does the transition from All I Want Is You to Where the Streets Have No Name give anybody else chills. I’ll admit, I almost wanna cry every time I hear it. It’s freakin’ amazing.

  6. So I’ve taken another step in my journey of tone. Picking up a new amp tomorrow, which is actually later today, now. If I had the $1300 for it, I would have snatched up the Mesa Boogie all-tube combo I played in GC. But again, $1300. Would I be correct in saying that the search for tone always leaves us musicians broke and covetous of the tones of the musicians we look up to?

    My blog, telling about the new amp. I totally didn’t steal the same of my blog from you. Nope.
    http://bassforworship.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/gas-and-the-search-for-tone-in-the-current-economy/

  7. Samuel–absolutely!! The first time I heard Slane’s All I Want into Streets, I literally got tears in my eyes. Still gives me chills every time.

    Cam–thanks, brother! I tried that a couple days ago, and I think the site was blogged down. Gotta go get it now!! You’ve done an incredible service just now, brother. ;)

    Colty–nice blog! Just checked it out. I’m adding you to my blogroll. :)

  8. I can see the “sloppy wet kiss” line not going over well in some churches, but it’s an important line that shouldn’t be omitted. Everyone doing that song should include that line and point any complainers to Song of Songs. Just my two cents.

  9. Jason & Samuel (& Samuel’s wife…kind of…hehe)–hilarious discussion. I’m so picturing POD doing that song.

    Colty–Huh. Very interesting viewpoint. I agree that ‘sloppy wet kiss’ could be an important line, but depending on your viewpoint of how, why, and for whom Song of Songs was written, there could also be an argument that that line is an irreverent one, rather than an important one. I’m not making that argument, but I could totally understand someone making it, just as I can totally understand you making your argument. I think it’s important for us to be open to different people’s viewpoints on the grey/non-salvation areas of Scripture, and then to react accordingly. Meaning, for some congregations the line works, and for others, maybe not so much. But I don’t think the line needs to be in the song. It can be there, fine; but I don’t think it ‘has to be’, if that makes any sense. And that’s just my two cents. ;)

    Great discussion, brother, and I’m very interested in your viewpoint. And I am officially declaring this thread an historical event! ‘Bullet the Blue Sky’ to the interpreting of the origins of ‘Song of Solomon!’ :) Now that is awesome!

  10. Fair point. I tend to wonder though, if SoS wasn’t written kind of as Jesus’ declaration of love for us, then why was it included in the canon? I mean, it’s wonderful poetry, but if it doesn’t serve as much more than a type of romance novel, I don’t think it should be counted as canonical. I do think it should be included in the canon, though, because I’m of the opinion that it describes God’s love for us. Then again, I’m of the opinion of a lot of things that might not be right, so who knows?

    In any circumstance, that song is a very powerful one and I think that line serves to increase the emotional content of the song. Plus, it’s funny to hear in the middle of service, so it can help bring a sense of joy to a service that “Let It Rain” (amazing song) might not bestow.

    Yes, you’re definitely right about being open to other’s opinions. I try, but I can tend to have the personality that says “I’m right, you must believe the way I believe,” but I’m working on that. And yes, quite the epic blog this has turned into P.O.D. doing that song would be the best thing ever, aside from, of course, if U2 were to do it.

  11. Very cool. Interesting point about joy. I like that!

    I think the school of thought I subscribe to is that it was written about the romantic love a husband and wife ‘should’ have for each other. And then, seeing as that marriage love is also the analogy Jesus later uses to describe the love between us and God, Songs of Solomon then serves as a great picture of the feelings between us and God, not necessarily the acts or descriptions between us and God.

    However, this view is slightly obscure, and I readily admit that your view could definitely be correct. :)

    And yes, I’m voting U2 do this song over POD. But the again, I just always tend to vote against POD. ;) hehe Although that was years ago in my Tourniquet days, or as I refer to them, ‘The Dark Years.’ Maybe I should give POD another shot.

  12. Actually, that makes a lot of sense. Possibly more sense than my school of thought. Curious…

    P.O.D.’s more recent stuff is actually pretty solid. I can’t get into their old stuff, but their new stuff is actually very good. Dunno if you’ve ever listened to Incubus or not, but they’re worth listening to. They have good tone and they just write quality, unique music.

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