23 thoughts on “Guitar Tone Tip #73

  1. Have read reviews that if you really know how to use that pedal, you can get a lot of the sound he used way back then.

    I think what is more important to note is that matching a guitarist’s tone does not mean you have matched their ability.

  2. In completely unrelated news, I emailed Hermida Audio yesterday to get put on the Zendrive list and received the “it’s ready to ship” email this morning.

    I need to take a picture of my board now. It goes: Turbo Tuner, Tim, Zendrive, Timeline, Radical Red Reverberator. I’m excited about it! I have the nicest RRR I’ve seen, lol.

  3. Matt–lol Me too! I bought my BC Rich Bronze series Warlock (oh my) because ‘it looked like something Tourniquet might play.’ hehe

    Larry–:)

    Samuel–:)

    Mark–haha absolutely!!

    Kenrick–haha Good call! Couldn’t Digitech have found another picture?

    Chris–great point! A lot of Clapton’s tone comes from his hands, and no gear will ever emulate that.

    But also, I’ve heard this pedal; and while it’s not horrendous, even if it cost $2,000 and was handmade in Sweden, no ‘model’ knob on any pedal is ever going to sound like the 12 different amps and 5 different guitars Clapton used on the recordings this pedal claims to ‘nail.’ It’s just physics. Let alone what you said about no gear ever making your hands emulate Clapton’s! lol Great point, brother! :)

    And by the way, your last post was awesome on your site.

    James–yikes, that sounds like a killer board! Tuner, od, delay…that’s seriously the perfect board. And some great pedals at that! Props to you, sir.

  4. “BC Rich Bronze series Warlock”. Dark age there…

    There are thousands of bands out there that get their merchandise done before actually starting the first tour. How far are we from the point where manufactures will also design equipment prior to real music? :P

  5. Thanks for the complement.

    The one complaint I heard about that pedal was “if I want to play [insert clapton song] and then play [insert another clapton song] then I have to change the knobs, I can’t just flip a switch.”

    With all the software modeling, such as the POD’s, I think the whole “I can sound like Eddie Van Halen” is possible. However, the most likely result is “I sound nothing like Eddie Van Halen, except for my tone.”

    Tone Talent (that’s “not equal”, I could have used != but I figured was easier to understand. yep, i’m a computer programmer by trade.)

  6. Ren–lol Ya, those were definitely some dark days. Tone was…well, let’s face it…there was no tone. ;)

    And great point! I think we’re already there in some ways. I mean, if you know that putting Jimi Hendrix’s name on a pedal will be 95% of the selling point, how much time are you going to spend making it sound good?

    Chris–love it, bro! I was totally hoping this would bring this discussion point up. :) See, I used to be really into all the new technology, but the more of it I bought and played live, the more I wanted my tubes, speakers, and the ‘integrity of my signal’ back. And as of yet, I have not heard a pedal, computer program, or modeling amp, accurately sound like a 1963 Vox AC30. Or, in Clapton’s case, a ’60′s Twin Reverb. :) But, I am always willing to learn! Is there a piece of equipment that I am missing here, that takes the place of a good tube amp and a good guitar? Or are you saying that you can couple this pedal and/or a POD with a tube amp and good guitar, to get Clapton sounds?

    And you’ve gotta forgive me, because I have fairly strong views on this stuff. But like I said, I have been wrong before and I definitely plan on being wrong in the future, as I don’t know everything. lol :) And I always respect your opinion and extensive knowledge on technology, so I’d love to learn!

    Cheers, brother!

    Ryan and Chris–not sure what’s happening there. I think wordpress is rejecting certain symbols. I’ll try to check and see if I can’t fix that; but I think I have the filter on pretty low already. Hmm.

  7. I’m not saying that a POD or other software model rig can perfectly duplicate a sound. However, they can come close. For many, “close is good enough” because a $400 POD is cheaper than building a custom setup just for one specific sound.

  8. i have to agree with chris about sw-based modeling can come really close to the real thing … of course, the more expensive, the closer it gets. but alas, it is not the same.

    the other thing good about sw-base is that you can do thing quick and easy without having to spend a lot of money. one example is how easy it is to change cabs and drastically affect the tone. i have used both sides extensively and i love my pedals/tube-amp setup. but for quick-takes, i can setup an extensive rig with my LOGIC/PODFarm combo!

    and yes, no one can sound like clapton except himself. same thing can be said of ourselves, nobody can really sound exactly like someone. God intended this to be :)

  9. Chris–Good point! I hear you on the versatility thing for less money. However, my thought is that a used Blues Junior for $250, a Line 6 Echo Park delay for $50, and a Fulltone Fulldrive for $100, will sound much better than the $400 POD or GT-10, or what have you. And then the versatility comes from practicing getting different sounds and textures with your hands, pickup selection, tone and volume knobs, and of course learning to use your pedals properly.

    I definitely hear your point, though, and you’re probably right that there are some modeling pedals that will have more sounds in them for the money than any traditional rig will ever be able to give you. It’s just that I personally have been able to get much better tones with a few good effects and a good amp, than with a lot of effects and amp models and such in a ‘close enough’ modeling rig. :)

    Of course, you do have to avoid any pictures of my pedalboard as I talk about ‘a few effects.’ lol Because I may be being extremely hypocritical right now! hehe

    Rhoy–yes, I agree that ‘more’ sounds are available for much cheaper and much quicker of a set up time with some of the modeling stuff. It’s just that I’m a complete tonal jerk and would rather have a few really good sounds than a ton of ‘close enough’ sounds. Which, like you said, it’s because the modeling rigs will never be exactly like the real thing. But for most guitarists, the quick setup is cool for small gigs or small recordings or whatever. It’s just that I happen to be the loser who brings his entire rig to any place I play, even if it’s for one song and I know I’ll have to have my amp barely at ’1′. And then I lug it all back out to my car, and never ask anyone to help me, because I like just touching and being close to my gear. So……uh……definitely take what I say with a grain of salt! lol :)

  10. Lol! I won’t say you’re a freak. Maybe more of a realist! The fastest way to a destination is a straight line. If you want good tones, don’t compromise. You certainly don’t, my friend :)

    I use my analog gear exclusively for live situations … And I love it! :)

    Good discussion btw.

  11. “and then I lug it all back out to my car, and never ask anyone to help me, because I like just touching and being close to my gear.”

    lol – I can put you in touch with a support group or a 12-step program for this.

  12. Rhoy–thanks for understanding! lol That honestly makes me feel better. :)

    And I agree…great discussion. I’m learning a lot.

    Chris–haha I actually might need that for reals!

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