Guitar for Worship is a place where people who love God and/or are searching for Him can have a place to explore and discuss openly what it means to live life “for worship” of Him. Everything is fair game. We’re looking for God, and what to do as we continue finding Him, and studying the teachings of Jesus.

For those of you looking for what this place used to be, which was all about pedals and effects and guitars and humour, that has now moved overto my official music site: Karl Verkade Music. This place has changed to be solely about God and worship.


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  1. Hi Karl!

    It’s been a very long time since I’ve talked to you, so i thought I’d drop a note saying “what up?!”. How’s life?

    • Hey man, my worship leader told me about your site and it looks really cool. Tone crafting and effects are my biggest weakness in guitar so this seems like a pretty informative place to learn from. Thanks!

      • No worries at all! Great to have you here! 🙂 And apologies in advance that you’ll probably have to dig through a few of my ramblings to find the actual stuff pertaining to tone. hehe 😉 Cheers!

  2. Hey, Ellie! Great to hear from you. Life is going quite fantastic right now. Only thing I could use would be some money, but hey. hehe 🙂 How’s life for you? I run across your blog from Mike Dalton’s links from time to time. Cool stuff. Hope all is awesome!


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  3. Just wanted to say thanks for the blog, my man…I’ve linked you in my rambling little musings, trying to get you some hits. You’ve inspired me to put 3 different delay pedals on my board (*drooooool*) and see the electric guitarists side in a whole new light.

    God bless!

  4. Hey Andy,

    Well, thanks man! Glad you’re enjoying the blog. And of course, the more delay pedals, the better! 😉 Absolutely. hehe Hey, what’s your blog? I’d love to check it out!


  5. I just found your site!

    I was thinking about doing a blog similar to this, but I may just send a bunch of the young guitarists at our church to your site….you’re right on!

    Shoot me an email sometime, I’ll send you some photos of my pedal board, amps and guitars.


  6. Hey Karl…thanks for posting on my worship team site…you can comment any time. I agree, Came to my Rescue is an awesome song! I’m excited to do it with the team tomorrow! Love your site! I frequently direct my guitar players to it!

  7. whoa you are just up the 15 from me! are you serious about the workshops? my band in escondido could really use some help and input, i’d be more then willing to pay you for gas etc.

  8. Kenrick–ya, I’d be happy to! Maybe sometime after Christmas we can work out an evening that’d work for your team. You’re welcome to e-mail me at karl@getlife.tv, and then we can talk about how experienced your team is, etc. ‘Cause I usually taylor it, depending on the audience, to either playing guitar in a worship setting, using effects in a worship setting, tone in general, or a mix and overview of all three.

    But if your team is interested, I’d be more than happy to do it.

  9. Hey man – I don’t know who else to turn to for some support… I own over 100 U2 bootlegs, the full discography, and every meaningless b-side from Japanese CD singles.

    I don’t know what to do about the fact that their new single is, quite frankly, crap. Not it’s-going-to-grow-on-me-over-time-as-I-discover-the-hidden-genius crap… just plain old crap.

    If the song was on an album as a filler track, I’d skip it. Your silence on this issue tells me you’re trying to make sense of this mess as well.

  10. haha Sorry to say it, but I actually like the song. Didn’t at first; it completely surprised me. But at the same time, I can totally see where people won’t dig it. I’ve gotten so many questions on this, that I finally just gave in and posted on it. haha

  11. lol Ya, a friend texted me the other day!! Have you got it yet? I still haven’t brought myself to do it…there’s just something about playing the cd for the first time, and I don’t want to ruin it. But I know myself…there’s gonna be no way I’ll be able to wait…is it good? 🙂

  12. 1st 2 tracks will blow u away! Achtung Baby for 2009. Some killer tracks, some pointless explorations, some typically beautiful acoustic-ish stuff. It’s U2, so I need @ least 2 weeks for it to grow on me!

  13. Karl,

    I just bought a Damage Control Timeline. Thank you so much for the great education on the pedal. It is an awesome delay! I play a lot of worship and this pedal is amazing! I play along side of the Diamond ML2 and that is a great combo. Thanks again.


  14. Mark, congrats, bro!! Those have been becoming hard to come by, so that is awesome. Seriously, those are, as of now, the best digital delay pedals I’ve heard or played with. And you’re coupling it with the Memory Lane 2? Ah…so beautiful.

    Props, my friend!!

  15. It was tough to come by. I called Peavey and they tracked one down in a small guitar shop. I think I got the last USA made Timeline. The Memory Lane 2 has got an awesome vibe to it, but the dotted eights are tricky to tap. That is why I wanted the Timeline. Bought a Midi Mate this week. What are you favorite patches? Or did you write all of your own. God Bless you bro

    Thank you for the great videos!

  16. Right on! Ya, I felt the same with the Memory Lane. I had a version 1 with a dotted 8th mod, and it just always felt as if that pedal was much too warm and spacious to get enough crispness to make the 8ths work. So I agree; I don’t think that’s it’s strength. And ya, I wrote all my own patches on the Timeline.

    And may God bless you, as well, and no worries on the videos. Just glad they can be a help to a couple people.

  17. Hey, Karl:
    This is a copy of a message I sent through youtube, but in case you don’t check that a lot, I’m posting it here.

    Thanks for putting those 3 vids up; I was considering getting a TimeLine, and yours was some of the only (worthwhile) info I could find on it. Thankfully, Damage Control is back up and running and I now own one of these superb pedals.
    I hate to ask, but can you possibly give me an idea of what settings you might have used in part 2, specifically, the reverse with swell? I don’t own a MIDI (heck, I didn’t have effects pedals until last year!) and so I don’t know if the swell is something you add with that, or if it’s obtainable with just the pedal. Pete at Damage Control has been helpful, but as it’s your video that got me wondering, I thought I’d try asking you direct.
    I’ve played pedal steel (exclusively) for over 30 years, and this whole FX area is something I’ve only just begun exploring, so in that sense I’m a “newbie” and appreciate anything you can tell me.
    Thanks a lot.
    dan morris

  18. Hey Dan,

    Congrats on the Timeline! Ya, what a great pedal. I was so stoked when I found out about them…real sleeper pedal that just sounds great.
    As far as settings for the reverse delay with the swells, it’s all the pedal. The midi devices do only switching…so they just allow you to access and save more presets within the pedal, but all the sounds come from the Timeline itself.
    The first swell patch, I believe I have the middle knob on reverse delay (obviously, hehe). Then repeats pretty high at around 3-4 o’clock. Time is fairly slow…probably around 12-1 o’clock. Then grit is at about 10 o’clock, mix is full up, smear is down to about 9-10 o’clock, filter is up at around 2 o’clock, modulation speed is very low, almost not on, and mod depth is around 12 o’clock. Then I just pick very lightly and kind of feel the delay…let the pedal play me.
    As for the second one, right as the video runs out, it’s probably the same settings, just roll off on the filter a good deal from the previous settings, and roll the mix back to about 2 o’clock.
    I think. I don’t have the pedal right next to me at the moment, but I’ll check when I get home. Also, within the next week I should have videos up and a post here on ‘How to Use Delay’, and a lot of it will center around the Timeline, so hopefully that will help, too!


  19. Thanks very much for the (lightning) reply, Karl!
    I’ll be watching for those videos; I’ve learned that nothing replaces playing around with a pedal, but starting points, suggestions and such are quite valuable.

  20. Dan–wow, sorry I saw this so late! But you’re welcome, and glad to be of some help. And great point about how you really have to play a piece of gear to completely formulate your opinion on it. Cheers!

    Jeff–lol You’re way too kind, brother. I’m just blessed to be able to serve alongside you.

  21. Hi Marie,

    Thanks for checking out the page! And wow, I just looked at your site, and you guys have a great thing going on over there. I’ll definitely put you in my links section and frequent the site myself. Thanks so much, and have a great morning!


  22. This is a cool place, I just discovered it. I have read thru some of the things here, and I am finding myself saying “been there, done that”. And that what is being said is pretty right on in my book.

    I have a website that hopefully might help some people with electronics skills get exactly what they want – http://www.DIYguitarist.com

  23. Hey, Paul! Great to have you here! 🙂

    I checked out your site, and it’s fantastic! I’ve even been there a few times myself with some questions. I’ll put a link to it in my links section for sure.

    Cheers, brother!

  24. Cool! I’m always happy to hear when something on my website has helped someone.

    This is a cool place, I’m sure I’ll be hanging out here more often in the days to come.

    BTW, do I have to become a member to use a picture? How does that work? I’m not used to this format…

  25. Hey Paul, thanks for your site, and I’m stoked to have you hanging out here as well, as much as you like.

    And I think you do have to get a wordpress account to have a picture on wordpress blogs, but honestly, I’m not sure. hehe I’m kind of challenged when it comes to that stuff. Maybe check out wordpress, because the accounts are free. 🙂

  26. Hey guys umm a freind recommended this site to me and I wanted to check it out.. I play lead guitar for my church but lately my guitar is screwing up.
    I have a ESP Ltd with a floyd rose.. And my bridge is sinking to far into the body of the guitar.. Any help? Hopefully not but , I might just have to go get it fixed

    Peace, love, and happiness

    God bless

    • Hi Carter.

      I have worked on all my guitars for the last 20 years, and most of them have a Floyd Rose style bridge on them.

      If your bridge is going back too far into the body, then the springs are not providing too much counter-pull compared to the tension of the strings. This usually happens when you put a lighter gage of strings on it than it was set up for. The only real remedy is to have it re-adjusted so that the springs aren’t pulling as hard. You want the bridge to be parallel with the body when the strings are at full tension (guitar is in tune).

      If you don’t know how to work on them, yes, they can be a real pain in the neck. It might be worth it to you to just have a guitar tech adjust it. It’s not too hard for a guitar tech to do.

  27. Hey, Carter! Welcome!

    As for the ESP, I’ll be honest…I hate working with Floyd Rose systems because, well, because they’re hard to work with. I would assume that either the springs underneath the bridge have tightened due to a change in climate, that your neck has contracted due to change in climate, or that you might have changed string gauge? Any of that could cause not enough tension on the Floyd, and cause it to start to recess into the guitar’s body.

    So you could try re-setting up your truss rod and action (if you’ve never done it before, make sure you find a good online guide, otherwise you can really damage your guitar), or, if you have recently switched to a lighter gauge string, just switch back to your original gauge. Or even go into the back of the guitar and try to loosen the springs on the Floyd.

    Or, unfortunately, it could also just be the Floyd breaking. In which case, taking it to a good tech may just be the best option. My sincere apologies that I’m not more experienced with Floyd systems. Maybe someone who is can chime in. Usually I just stay away because although they’re cool and can sound good, they’re just hard to work with and maintain.

    But, maybe that helped a bit? hehe I don’t know. Anyway, welcome to the site, and hope to chat with you more!

    In Christ,

  28. hey karl,

    i am thoroughly enjoying your blog. the transparency of your entries (and tone) do not go unappreciated. as a relative tone n00b and recent G.A.S. sufferer, i was wondering if you could enlighten me about the difference between the Diamond Memory Lane version 1 vs 2. I have found several deals on ebay for a much cheaper version 1. Is there a reason enough to buy the 2? I know you may be biased cause you own the V1 but it’s ok.


  29. Hey Josh,

    Welcome! Great to have you here! As for the Memory Lanes, they are essentially the same sound, with the v.2 being a little less dense on the modulation, and a little more ‘normal’ sounding on the repeats. The v.1 has really intense modulation, and a really different flavor of repeats. It can almost play you sometimes, and it’s fun to play right on the verge of it getting out of control. I love its flavor, personally. But it is different, and a lot of people like the slightly more classic sound of the v.2 .
    Also, version 2 has two delay time settings that you can switch between with a third footswitch, which the v.1 does not have.
    Hope that helps! 🙂


  30. No worries, bro! hehe I just checked the time between when you posted the question and when I answered you, and you’re right…it was fairly rapid. I usually try to not look so much like I just hang out at my own blog all day waiting for someone to ask me questions so I can pontificate on gear! 😉 hehehe

  31. Hey ,
    I found you by doing a search for Prairiewood Guitars on youtube . I just got this one .
    I’m in Dana Point . I’m old (50)and was part of the Jesus movement in the 70’s lived with Kieth Green in the 80’s hung out a bit with Lonnie Frisbee before he died . Your playing is great on youtube . Sure hope you can do something to better worship music , it should be the best music made if inspired by God but most is far from even being any good at all .

  32. Korby–congrats! That’s a beauty of a guitar! Ya, Rob does some incredible work!

    So you were involved in the Jesus Movement, with Keith Green? That is awesome. Wow, bet you’ve got some incredible experience and wisdom. If you don’t mind my asking, what in your opinion, made that movement so powerful and ‘work’ so much? From what I’ve heard, it seemed that the church at that time finally started to just accept people for who they were.

    And I hear ya on the worship music thing. There’s some stuff out there that I dig, but it is unfortunately few and far between. I always like to think that it’s better than it is; but then I have to ask myself why every time I just listen to music for fun rather than learning for a service or outreach, why there are precious few Christian bands I’ll put on. You make a great point, brother!

    Anyway, cheers, and really stoked that you came by! Looking forward to chatting more in the future!

    In Christ,

  33. I think the Jesus Movement had the Holy spirit’s power behind it and the hippies and druggies were burnt out and desprate and the few churches that would accept them grew immensely . I dont think it was a person planned thing but only Chuck Smith Sr. would know that . I know once Lonnie Frisbee’s bringing in the thousands of unwashed was no longer needed he was cut loose . But I can also see how a senior pastor could be afraid of a person like Lonnie , probably with good reason in hind sight . Church back then was a little dangerous , really nothing like today .

  34. Right on. I love that perhaps when the time is right, maybe God just takes over? And maybe we’re just blessed to be along for the ride. Very cool, and thanks for sharing that insight. I especially like the part about the danger. I’ll be the first to admit that my faith isn’t dangerous enough right now.

    Thanks again, brother! Cheers!

  35. Hi Karl,

    I just randomly stumbled across this website now well over an hour ago in my web search for a Duesenberg guitar. I’ve now spent about an hour and a half browsing through this site, utterly amazed at what an awesome resource it is for worship guitarists! Wow! And then I notice that you are a worship leader in Temecula!

    Basically, my mind has been blown by the fact that such a rad community of worship guitarists exists only an hour from where I live. In San Diego, I know of just a few guys sprinkled across several churches all over town.

    I help out with worship at a church in La Mesa (San Diego), and our worship pastor and I have been focussed recently on trying to really build a community of worship, which I know includes excellence and of course good tone!

    Since I am also a guitarist, I’m interested in building this aspect of our musical expression. Right now at a church of 2,600 people there are only two guitarists for the main congregation and college group; me and one other guy (both of us in our early 20’s) who are relentlessly pursuing great tone.

    I want to see other guys excited about how amazing a guitar can sound, and understanding the things that the Edge and other truly great guitarists do well; making the most of every note and serving the song and the experience. This would also be huge for our students in high school and middle school who are involved in worship as to see from an early age.

    Basically, I’d love to meet you and have you come to my church for a workshop. If your friend with the Duesenberg wants to come too, that would be sweet! haha 😉

    Seriously, my mind is still being blown by the amazingness your website. Do you still have that Matchless Spitfire? If so, I would love to hear you play that thing – I recently missed an opportunity to pick one up used, and ended up getting a Goodsell Super 17 MkII instead, which I love, but I need to hear if I’m missing anything because thats always stood as the holy grail in my mind for some reason 🙂

    Thanks brother!


    email: dashtim7@hotmail.com

  36. Hey Tim! Great to meet you, and I’m stoked that the site can be a source of some info. There is a pretty cool community of worship musicians up here. We’re definitely blessed. And I would love to meet you and do a workshop down there. Just let me know when, and if there’s enough interest at your church, and that’d be awesome! 🙂

    And I’m actually selling the Spitfire. Not for a lack of tone, but because I needed a 30 watt amp. So I just got the Spitfire’s older brother, the HC30. Almost the same tone, just a little more power when I need it. 🙂 People have been comparing the Goodsell to Matchless, but I’ve yet to play a Goodsell. I think I’m still on a Matchless high right now. hehe Anyway, have a great evening!

    In Christ,

  37. Hey Karl,

    I’ve been reading your blog a little over a month, im not a guitar player I’m a sound guy. Just as you are in a quest for great tone. I’m in a similar if not parallel quest for great sound. I believe in order for me to do a good job, i need to know the music just as well if not better than the musicians. I consider my board my instrument, and i do my best to know my instrument well. (too bad i can’t trade mine in like a guitar and get a new one 🙂 ) However i want to learn more about the True Bypass I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of one of you posts dealing with this? Ive looked and cant find much on it.

  38. Hey Karl,

    I’m a guitarist from India and I really Liked your idea in that “Ambient Pad Setup” post..

    Thanks a lot for posting such useful tone-krafting ideas for U2 maniacs like me….

    Keep posting on how to get those ethereal tones out of the axe..

    I am happy to meet a guy like you whose interests matches mine…

    All The Best


  39. Hey Karl,
    Just happened upon your website after within the past week, and man this is just the stuff I was needing to hear (well, read). I play lead guitar in our praise band, and love what you got going on here. This is really a great resource and I am looking forward to reading more and more. I’ve got some catching up to do though, because you have quite a few posts. So thanks for what you are doing!

  40. Nick, it’s great to have you here! Thanks for the kind words, and hopefully you’ll be able to sort through some of my mindless ramblings. 🙂 So stoked to meet another worship guitarist, and welcome! Feel free to jump into any discussions you like, and to tell us how it ‘really’ is, if need be. 😉 Cheers, bro!

    In Christ,

  41. Is it OK if I am developing some definite bromance for you and your blog? And, to clarify, for me, said man-love is not wanting to BE you, it is wanting to hang out with you. See, I am different from you in a little way. Other than that, its like we are mental twins. Except I haven’t found a way yet to get paid for guitar. That would be awesome. I keep thinking that The Edge will see me, want to jam, and discover that I am the 2nd electric he has been missing for 33 years. But, alas, my time with them in Tampa was shared with 75,000 other people, so I lurk, as of yet undiscovered (most likely discovered, and ignored). Anyways, just wanted to say thanks again, and if you are ever in FL, let me know, would totally love to steal your ideas and pass them off as my own.

  42. Korby–right on! I had no idea. That’s incredibly cool!

    Joel–haha Thanks for the kind words, bro! And if Edge ever contacts you, you’ll let me at least be the guitar tech, right? haha How were they in Tampa? 🙂

  43. I dunno dude, I would totally accept Dallas’ job. Tampa show was amazing, pretty much everything you described. Excepting that Bono didn’t really say anything all that crazy, and those mistakes you mentioned were non-existent. Semi-random question about strings: what strings do you prefer? Not that I want to copy you, I’m just curious.

  44. Ya…the mistakes were actually pretty cool to see, because you could tell they were just the slightest bit tense about the show going live to 7 continents. lol I mean, it was almost imperceptible; but it was nice to see that they are human!

    And I really don’t know what strings I prefer. I’m using the Ernie Ball green pack right now because they’re good and they work. I’m not sure I could argue that they’re amazing, but every time I try another string, I always take them off and go back to the Ernie Ball’s.

  45. Interesting. Everyone I play with tells me Ernie Balls suck, and yet I feel myself gravitating toward them every time. Have you noticed any difference between the regular slinkies, and the classic rock n roll version?

  46. They have them in the same gauges. They are a pure nickel wrap, as opposed to the nickel/steel alloy of the standard versions. Supposed to be more vintage-sounding, but I notice it as being slightly warmer. Or maybe I’m just tricking myself.

  47. You know, nickel makes sense to me in theory. But last time I tried some (Snake Oils), it was just dull and lifeless for me. But perhaps it was just the brand. I’ll have to try Ernie Ball’s version! Thanks, bro!

  48. Ultimately, its about what works for you as an individual. I prefer the nickels. They are warmer, especially in the high end. Its just a lot smoother, and it works well on my Tele.

  49. Dear Mr. Verkade,

    it’s been fantastic and deep reading of your blog so far and I hope you keep it the way into 2010 and beyond!

    If I may have a small wish, would you be so kind and give me few tips on the looping machines out there on the market you currenty use/used in the past?

    I have a limited budget and I have been thinking about obtaining one of these three:

    EHX SMM with Hazarai
    Line 6 DL4
    RC-2 plus some delay.

    I want to mainly use it as: (i) a practice tool, (ii) a way to create wall of sound (ambient, feedback etc.), (iii) the delay and echo functions, which of course are not by no measures of your standards, but time will come when I can get your beasts! :-).

    I will appreciate any comments on these or other recommendations in that pricerange.

    Thanks, and Happy New Year!


  50. Thanks for the kind words, Petr! As far as looping/delay units, the SMM Hazarai or the Akai Headrush are probably the best quality for the money. Either that, or getting a Boss RC2 for loops alongside a Line 6 Echo Park for delay. 🙂 That actually might be my favorite option, as then you can have delay completely separate from your loops. And the Echo Park is a surprisingly good pedal, considering it can be picked up used for around $60. Hope that helps, my friend. Happy New Year to you as well!

  51. Karl,

    Just wanted to throw you a quick thank you for this blog. I’ve just come off an extended break (almost 7 years) from playing and your drive for finding great, pure tone (and ridiculously expensive boutique gear – I see a Timeline in my very, very near future) has really helped me to fall in love with my guitar all over again.

    I also share your (almost unhealthy) love of U2 (I mean, who in their right mind doesn’t love them?) and I’m just really glad I’m not the only one who feels so strongly about ’em.

  52. My best friend tells me that U2 sucks all the time. Now I know how people feel when I tell them I don’t like the Beatles 🙂 It boggles my mind…

  53. I wasn’t saying that I hate U2… They are my number 1 band actually… I was just stating that I know someone who is, how shall I say, unenlightened. The way I feel when he says they suck is probably equivalent to the way people feel when I state that I’m not a beatles fan.

    • I know you don’t, your friend does. My point is that if they are so bad, then they wouldn’t be making so much money!

      I have liked U2 since about 1982. I was I believe a junior in high school when I saw them doing the Redrocks concert on PBS singing “Sunday Bloody Sunday”. I haven’t liked everything that they do, but the moajority of it I like. I really like The Edge’s guitar playing, very cool style and sounds. 🙂

  54. Ken–great to meet you, and welcome! It’s great to have you here. And, of course, it’s always nice for me to find people who let me know I’m not alone in the world either in my love for tone and U2. haha Cheers, bro!

    Ben G–you don’t like the Beatles?!! Oh wait, you like U2…all is forgiven. hehe 😀

    Paul–great point. There’s a ton of people who find them pretty rad. 😉 hehe

    Ben G–me too! (On the ‘U2 being my number 1 band thing.’) hehe


    Paul–same here. There’s a couple things I don’t like from them, but very few. And Edge’s guitar is amazing. 🙂

  55. Hey man, great site! Im primarily a keyboardist in our worship band, however loved guitar and cover that as well. Problem is, there is no backup keyboardist so we lose that pad goodness when I handle guitar.

    Could you tell me what your signal chain is when you create those pad sounds? Love the full, saturated analog pad sound (which is what i use on keys) and want to create it live and cannot figure out the fx to make it happen….

    you rock, thanks!

  56. Thanks, bro! Glad you’re enjoying the site. Ya, and when I do the pads, my chain is:

    Subdecay Quasar phaser–>
    George Dennis volume pedal–>
    Damage Control Timeline delay (long setting for swells)–>
    Diamond Memory Lane delay (analog for warmth)–>
    Damage Control Timeline delay (low setting for spaciousness)–>
    Arion SAD-1 delay (chorusy setting)–>

    Hope that helps! Cheers!

  57. Karl,
    I just ran across your website and look forward to reading your insights. Funny you are so into U2. I just had a meeting with my worship pastor. After leading and doing backup on worship teams for over 40 years, I am stepping down because Christian worship has become “U2 does Jesus Music!” I cannot stand U2 because it is gimmick-pedal-based music and as I grow older, I am appreciating my roots in ’60’s-70’s rock and roll. A great guitar, maybe a tuner and one or two other OD pedals and a great amp (Marshall JTM45 or a Bassman) is where I want to be now. Worship teams have evolved over that 40 years into “how many pedals can I buy,” “how many different tones can I create. Very few can play a lead longer than 4 bars now because they don’t study music, they look at alternative bands and think that strumming 1/8 beat strums through a whole song is playing guitar. Where are the musicians anymore? U2 does Jesus Music, Green Day does Jesus Music. I’d rather choke on a carrot. “Give me a beat boys and free my soul…I wanna get lost in my rock and roll and slip away.”
    …and where are the worship musicians over 40? You will rarely see them. It’s just become a 20’s gig with 20’s worship music and it makes me sad to be honest.

    • I am 40-something musician on a worship team. I’ve been on worship teams in one form or another for the last 15 years.

      It does seem that most all the other musicians on the team I am currently with are between 18 and 30 years old. I see this as a good thing as that means that there will be a generation of worshippers after me.

      As far as the music is concerned, a lot of that is the product of today’s music “market”. Things are a lot different today than when I was young. You HAD to be a good musician thirty years ago, you couldn’t cut and paste your way thru a piece of music or sample things. And producers had to do innovative things in the studio that is now just a plug-in into some recording software. And the guitar solo seems to have vanished somewhere into oblivion. In the 70s & 80s, it seems like EVERY song had a guitar solo in it. It’s a much different world than the one I grew up in.

      I personally like U2, especially the earlier stuff. I think “Unforgettable Fire” is one of their best albums, very atmospheric with cool guitar work. They had their own sound, like a lot of the other great bands of the time. “The Edge” made his weaknesses his strength and now they are one of the top money making bands.

    • Blues Rocker,

      I am in my mid 40’s and have been playing in different worship situations for the last 18 years or so. I agree with you that the U2 Coldplay vibe has to some degree taken over worship music. I am actually not playing at my home church because the worship guy (in his 20’s) has convinced himself that “modern worship” has to sound like U2. Don’t get me wrong I like U2, I really liked them in the 80’s when they were new and current, and I still like much about them. But it seems shortsighted to pigeonhole “modern worship” music as any one “sound”. I see the need to be able to break out both .8th delay and bluesy OD where appropriate. Unfortunately I’m in a situation where the latter is not appreciated. Fortunately, I have the opportunity to play with some folks who think its weird that my worship guy wants me to change my style. Anyway, I understand your frustration, hope you find the right place.

    • BluesRocker,

      I’m a 52 year old lead guitar player/volunteer worship band leader for our local church, who can play the dotted 1/8th stuff with the best of them as well as cover a lead line longer 4 bars that doesn’t rely on the notes of the lead line be the same notes in the chord I’m presently fretting (common Hillsong United trick). Here’s an example of what our church does on Sunday morning (and yeah, I’m playing along with one of my 19 year old lead players that I’ve coached since he was 15):


      Forgive my presumption, but your observations have more of a ‘ring’ of “this is not my style of music…” versus there’s something spiritually wrong with this style of music as a vehicle for worship.

      If you see this as spiritual, then there’s more I’d like to say. However, if this is a ‘taste in musical styles’, I can understand your frustration.

      I recently was in Philadelphia to worship with Hillsong United. In terms of musicianship, while the band was ‘tight’, there was nothing that night to cause anyone to say, “Wow — those guys can flat out play! How did that guitar play just spin off that phrase?” Most of the songs relied on simple hooks, simple lead lines, some combination of 1, 4, 5, and 6m chord progressions, a lot of dotted 1/8th note delay, etc.

      However, they’re purpose that night wasn’t to impress anyone with ‘who they were’ or their ‘musicianship’. They were there to lead 6,000 folks for 2.5 hours of vertical praise. Did they accomplish that with one of the popular musical genres of our day? Judging from the 12,000 hands upraised, 6,000 voices that easily competed with the FOH sound system, and the tears in my eyes and the joy in my heart, I would say the answer was, “Yes.”

      While demonstration of exceptional musical skills is not in conflict with worship, neither is it the purpose of worship. My prayer every week is, “Lord, help me to play ‘the right thing’, even if it’s to play nothing at all. I want people’s attention to be on you, not on me…”

      The preceeding being said, our team isn’t beholden to any particular style. In the same service, we might cycle through more than one musical genre (country, R&B, funk, …). But it’s not because we’re trying to be ‘edgy’ or or we trying to showcase what we can do. We’re simply trying to use the ‘language of our culture’ to direct our people’s focus towards the throne.

      Thanks! 🙂

  58. BluesRocker–I do absolutely love U2. 😀 hehe Sometimes I wish I didn’t so much, but unfortunately, they just grab me. And in the end, that’s what I listen for in music…what grabs me. And whether it’s overdone or not, if U2’s style is also grabbing God’s people in worship music and helping them worship Him, then I think that’s a good thing. 🙂

    Is there room to be more diverse in worship music? Absolutely. And I’ll be praying for you as you strive to bring some of that diversity in your future worship music endeavors. I look forward to our future conversations!

    And as for the perceived ‘age specifications’ in current worship music, I think you’re right. And that’s something I don’t necessarily agree with, and probably should be changed. Thanks for the comment, and have a wonderful day. And I hope my U2-loving blog doesn’t make you want to choke on a carrot too much. 😉

    Paul–great points. It is a different time, and personally, if it’s reaching people…be it U2, classic rock, or hymns…then it’s fine by me. And great point about training up new generations! 🙂

    • I have always placed a high value on originality, in my own music and on music that I like. I grew up in a time of innovation and originality.

      Really the last thing the world needs is another copy cat band. We need to have more original sounding bands like U2. I’ve heard it said that the highest form of flattery is imitation, but when everyone wants to copy someone else, things get pretty stale. It is a challenge to be original as it seems someone has already went before you and done it already, but it can be done.

      I also really don’t like it much when a guitarist spends all their time playing something exactly like their favorite guitarist(s) instead of being unique like God intended them to be. Let’s use Jimi Hendrix as an example. OK, so you can play Little Wing exactly like Jimi did it on a recording. So what?! Why don’t YOU come up with something that everyone else wants to copy? It’s easy to be a parrot. There is a time and a place for such things, but too many guitarists want to assume someone else’s identity. I think there is much too much of that sort of thing going on these days. From the day I picked up a guitar with the intention of learnign how to play it, I wanted to be whatever I was going to be, not some carbon copy of someone else.

      Here is three things that The Edge is quoted as saying in the Jan 1992 issue of Guitar Player magazine:

      1. “I see the guitar as a struggle and a fight, but this means that my mind is open to new ideas”

      2. “My parts come generally out of exploration; they come from improvisation and accident. My strength is seeing them when they come out and capitalizing on them.”

      3. “I very rarely follow conventional paths in any aspect of my playing or writing.”

      This is a large part of why U2 has their own sound, because of The Edge and his relationship with the guitar. More people need to think like this. We would have many more orginal sounding guitarists.

  59. Paul–great comment. I absolutely agree about the importance of originality, and that that is one of the things that has made U2 who they are today. It’s also something that I need much more of in my own music. hehe

    That being said though, when it comes to corporate worship, I’m still of the mindset that if it takes unoriginal Edge delay to engage people in singing out to their Creator, then so be it. And if it takes some brand new guitar sound or chord structure that you’ve just invented to engage people in singing out to their Creator, then so be it also. I guess I see corporate worship music differently than all other music…I think it’s purpose is more congregational and slightly less artistic. I could be wrong, though.

    But ya, in my own music, I need to be way more original. Maybe I should buy another delay…… 😉

    Marie–haha Awesome discussion going on there. Thanks! I’ll be following that one. 🙂

    • Yeah, it is true that corporate worship is a different animal. But I think that people can still appreciate a fresh approach even in that sort of setting.

      In the worship team setting, I try as much as possible to pay attention to the song and to not do more than the song needs. Sometimes less is more. But I do have some of my own unconventional chord voicings which I use that often give it some depth that it wouldn’t have otherwise, muiscally speaking. 🙂

      • Worship music is a completely different animal than recorded music. I agree with Paul and Blues Rocker both. I think that the 60’s and 70’s had GREAT musicianship behind it and a real load of innovators in the music industry. I ALSO think that U2 was a very innovative band. Think about it… their music is STILL getting radio time and it was written in the early 80’s (at least their good stuff was). As far as U2 sound for worship… I think that U2’s sound is used for worship because they wrote specifically to target emotions and nostalgia. The edge has been quoted as saying their music puts you in a place, wherever that may be for you but each song has a location in time or space for everyone. THIS is what makes U2’s sound so good for worship… it allows people to access their emotions while worshipping. Again, worship is not JUST music on sundays… worship is how we each live out our lives in obedience to Christ! Remember that as a musician on a worship team you are NOT seeking attention or seeking what you can get out of playing in a band with friends every sunday… you are there to serve the body of believers at your church and GIVE them as much as you can and facilitate them as much as you can! Great discussion guys!

  60. Karl, Paul, Marie, Ben…
    What a priviledge it is to hear your views and to have an honest discussion about the current state of worship music and gear. You each have wise comments and I agree with all of you. And if U2 gives you a platform to bring you closer to Christ, then so be it…even if Bono’s voice sounds like he gargles with bowl cleaner (oh, how did that slip out!). Please understand I absolutely respect the Edge…I’m not against his musicianship, it just doesn’t do much for me or involve me…to each his/her own. Believe it or not, that’s what the Who, ACDC, Ted Nugent, Alvin Lee, Gary Moore, Buddy Guy, Albert King, Django Reinhardt and Robert Johnson do for me!!! I’m not saying I like their inuendo lyrics, but their beat, rhythm groove are amazing. I also like some current acoustic CCM.
    And PLEASE forgive me for leaving a post without first introducing myself. May I do that now in the form of a short bio? (Not to bore, or self-exault, but for reference):

    1.) Was saved at a church retreat in ’65 on my 13th birthday.
    2.) Began performing on guitar in ’59, the year of the great “59 Les Paul!”
    3.) Grew up playing the very first Gibson SJ-200, now in the museum in Nashville.
    4.) First session in Studio City, 1963.
    5.) Multiple bands/performances from surf to folk to rock.
    6.) Was involved in the early “Contemporary Christian Music” that evolved from folk and rock musicians in Southern Cal who were saved and looked for a place to exercise their musical creativity and rock. We even used Bob Dylan’s work for worship on acoustic guitar (much like the younger musicians now are using U2 style in so much worship music). Anyone remember 2nd Chapter of Acts, Honeytree, Chuck Gerard, Randy Stonehill, Petra, White Heart? They were the early pioneers of what you do today. Please respect them and get to learn some of their music. Remember there was a beginning to contemporary worship long before most of you were even born! Please respect the older worship musicians who carried the torch in the beginning as we transitioned from just old, familiar hymns to incorporating “modern” sounds.
    7.) I still love the old hymns, as they were often written in grief, struggles and pain we can only read about.
    8.) Spent decades writing, performing and recording.
    9.) Some of my very favorite musicians are young! In fact, I’m jamming with a touring drummer this afternoon (Chad, 16 Cities) who is one of the very best drummers I’ve EVER played with. A prodigy and son of the King.
    10.) I lean toward Blues, Rock/Hard Rock (no shredding/no metal) and Bluegrass.
    11.) What I’ve learned in all those years is that as for musicianship, “Less is More!” Believe it and practice it! Let the song breath. Leave space in the song for worshippers minds to be involved musically. Note: That is why I struggle with so much of current worship and bands, there is so much going on throughout the song, especially this 1/8 beat strumming throughout, that the song gets clogged up, much like when you try to open too many windows and try to do something on your older computer…the RAM just can’t process all of it.
    12.) Next weekend is my last time playing on our worship team. As I said, I’ve been a worship musician for over 40 years, longer than many of you have been alive!!! I would appreciate prayer to know where Christ is leading me now musically as I feel the music has moved to a place where my own skills (blues/rock) just have no place to express itself. I am looking into secular music and taking Christ into the bars and backroads and festivals. I would love to form a Christian blues/rock group.
    I posted WAAAAYYY too many words. But how can we share if you don’t know me, as well as I can be known over cyberspace!

  61. Awesome conversation. I’m not going to respond individually, as I feel that would that would take away from the rad conversing. But I totally agree that there should be a place for all types of different styles.

    And for sure agree on the less is more. In fact, I’ve heard all styles play too much at some point or another. And by ‘heard’, I pretty much mean myself. hehe I’ve overplayed dotted 8th delay, ambient delay, blues riffs, and shredding (loosely translated) at one time or another in my life. If it’s not done for the good of the song, then the song isn’t breathing; no matter what style it is. 🙂 Again, there’s been some great points here. Thanks for bringing all this up, Blues Rocker!

    Oh, and Marie, no worries about posting a link to your blog. Anything goes over here! haha

  62. Mike Oliver, thanks for those great observations. I totally agree with playing what’s best for the music and the worship as a whole, rather than being recognized for musicianship. I don’t always follow it, lol, but I’m trying to! haha Hillsong seems to be a very good example of this.

    Very well-put, my friend. 🙂

  63. Mike,
    Thanks for sharing your video clip. Anytime I see a guitarist with a red ES-335, I know he can play ;). (I play a sunburst Fat Neck Dot…not quite in the red league!) Mark Knopfler once said, “Red guitars just sound better!”
    Yeah, not a spiritual situation as we have a very healthy, growing, generous, missions-oriented church with no “shining star” pastor, but several who rotate giving the message.
    The issue is the music style of worship, for me…And that we keep adding more guitarists (up to 8-9 now, so it is difficult to keep up with the playing skills when one is only playing on the team once every 2 months!). By comparison, a church I was involved in pioneering years ago has had the same essential band members since 1982! That’s devotion, and doesn’t leave much room for others with “the gift.” So I think there must be a happy-medium or balance as to how many should be on a worship team.

    Mike, I would like to respond to your comment: “However, they’re purpose that night wasn’t to impress anyone with ‘who they were’ or their ‘musicianship’. They were there to lead…(for) vertical praise.”

    I appreciate your humble spirit and commend you for keeping the “vertical worship” to Christ primary in yours (or anyone’s playing), but may I lay my head on the chopping block for moment? What is unspiritual about playing an awesome, tasteful, skillful lead part unto the Lord? Where does He say, “I gave you this love of music. I gave you this skill. Now when you worship me, I want you to down-play all you can so that you don’t get the glory over Me?!” I would like to present the thought, that all our playing can be worshipful.

    In fact, when I first began playing for my church 3 years ago, I purposely underplayed my skill level so as not to draw attention to myself. (Now keep in mind this is 5-service weekend of playing with lots of old folks, lots of young and a good portion of us 50’s something believers.

    I kept holding back my playing until one day the lead pastor came to me backstage and said, “I sense you are holding back, my friend. Jesus never held back when he had something to say. You ARE exalting Jesus when you play with all of your heart and skill.”

    Then one experimental morning the drummer, bass player and I stated a little up-beat 12-bar blues groove going after rehearsal. The interem worship leader/pastor walked over and said, “What would you think about play that as an intro?” I said, “Really?!”
    “Should we be playing that in church?” She said…let’s do it!
    I played my heart out as I love the blues style!

    What really set me free was afterward, a little old man hobbled slowly up to the stage after the service was over. I was thinking, “O.k., Lord, here it comes…’that’s the Devil’s music.'” This precious 85 year old said with a twinkle in his eye: “Good morning! I sure enjoyed your music this morning.”
    Me: “Well, thank you sir, and I hope it wasn’t too loud or up-beat for you.” Him: “No, if fact, I think you put a new jig in my step.” I thanked him sincerely turned aroiund and with misty eyes returned to breaking down my gear and going home.

    Now, you may not understand what that did in my heart but I saw Jesus in this man’s eyes…and he set me free, musically, once for all!

    From then on, when I was given the lead, I played my heart out with all the skill I could. In all those times playing, I never had anyone comment how they thought I was drawing attention to myself. In fact, they said, “I miss it when you don’t play.”

    Please Church, (Mike, NOT that you were doing this)…please don’t mistake false humility for spirituality. That IS just what the Devil would you to think!

    Much love and respect….

    • LOL! 🙂

      The guy with the ES-335 copy is one of our younger volunteer worship leaders. The older dude seen with either the Tom Anderson drop-top or the Walnut-Mahogany colored Tele-copy is me. The tall, skinny, long-haired young man is my other young lead player, Ian (who also happens to be my college room-mate’s son). I still tease him periodically about the time he was 3 years old riding on my shoulders at the Ohio State Fair, using my ears like the reins for a horse to steer me in the direction of anything that caught his attention (and there was a lot to see that day — lol!). What a privilege it is to play with him on our worship team.

      I agree with your reply whole-heartedly… That’s why I said the exercise of exceptional skill is not in diametric opposition to worship. In fact, it can and does add effectively to the worship experience as people witness the genuine humility of a gifted musician who offers that gift in praise to the Father.

      While I ‘tease’ my younger band members about the simplicity of most of the music that gets them excited in the Lord, given our purpose as worship musicians, I’m not ready to ‘lay down my axe’ and retire because of the current popular worship musical genre. I still feel compelled to encourage them, as did a dear old brother who’s now home with the Lord did for me when I was their age and younger. If that means coaching them to exercise excellence in playing yet one more song with “4 chords, a wall of sound, and drenched in delay”, I’m game to be right there with them, and along the way, I’ll continue the work of broadening their musicial perspectives.

      I had to smile at your story about the 85 year old brother in Christ! I’ve had some similar experiences. However, I did have one that was not so positive.

      I was out in Dayton OH back in early 2000 serving as a workshop leader and supporting band member for a local worship clinic being held at one of the area churches. My sister, who was a worship pastor for one of those churches, asked me to stick around and play with her team for their Sunday morning services, which I gladly did.

      On Tuesday after I’d returned home, my sister forwarded me an anonymous email message from one of the folks who was there Sunday morning. They’d taken exception with my guitar work. This gist of their message was “it’s O.K. for me to play like that up at the ‘Capitol Theatre’ in Columbus OH, but not in church on Sunday morning!” Amazing… (and sad…)

      Thanks! 🙂

  64. I’m truely sorry to hear that your church will be losing such a valuable asset! Anytime you want to move to Napa CA and give me guitar lessons… you’re more than welcome 🙂

  65. Blues Rocker–nothing wrong with jammin’ a little blues, if it’s helping people worship God. 😀 I do my best to use my skill for God as well, although my skill is not necessarily in the blues. I feel like my skill is more mental, in figuring out what few notes to place where, for the overall sound and texture of the song. That’s how I use my musicianship skill to the best of my ability for my Creator. 🙂 Different styles, for different folks. And thank goodness! Man, it’d be boring for people to listen to my style all the time. And that includes me! I need to hear some of your style and skill sometimes! Cheers!

    Ben G–I’ll second that. 🙂

    Paul–Napa does sound nice. Which desert are you in? Joshua Tree I hope? 😉

  66. Ben: You are a humble man. How about a little jam on in Heaven together. I need to learn what you’re playing!

    “I feel like my skill is more mental, in figuring out what few notes to place where, for the overall sound and texture of the song. That’s how I use my musicianship skill to the best of my ability for my Creator.” (Karl)

    Karl, to me, you just described the epitome of musicianship!
    And to you country players…epitome is a good word! 😉

    • Personal gripe as a guitarist and prodcuer Y’know when people add delay, reverb and all that after the note gubbins, they often forget to make sure that the guitar tone on its own is any good whatsoever. So, guitarists of the world, delay can be great. Add it AFTER you’ve got your killer sound and Ta-Dah better delay+guitar sound.Plus, delay covers a multitude of sins, if you can’t play it with the delay off, then the delay will just fool you into thinking you’re a decent player. This is after all, exactly why The Edge started using delay, to compensate for playing inadequacies.PS Karl I know none of the above applies to you [grin]

  67. Karl –

    I actually went to Napa Valley for my honeymoon, back in 2000. We loved it there. I would totally love to live somewhere like that, but it seemed too far out of reach financially for us to really live there. And then there is the problem of what do you do for work there?

    We live in the middle of the Mojave Desert, in a city called Las Vegas. There are Joshua Trees here. 🙂

  68. Yea I am born and raised in Napa so the cost of living never changed for me. My entire family is here including both sets of grand parents, 4 aunts and 3 uncles and my parents and siblings. I’ve been attending the same church for 19 years now 🙂 It’s pretty homey. With the housing market crash things are a bit more affordable now if you’ve got the know how and the will power to buy a fixer-upper.

    Blues – The coolest thing about heaven is we’ll all know, literally, the perfect note/phrase/dynamic to play at the literal perfect moment and we’ll all be playing through God’s half-stack 🙂 It’s gonna be epic.

    • Ben G –

      Unfortunately, I am still not in any position to move anywhere. I am now stuck in a house that I owe more than twice what it’s worth. If I short saled it, IRS would tell me that I owe them taxes on over $200,000 of “income”, which is really a loss for me or the bank/government (this is ridiculous for them to be doing this to people). My 20-year career as an HVAC designer at a local consulting engineering firm came to a sudden end in March 2009. Things were very bad for us a year ago. I was expecting to be literally be homeless because of our financial situation. But thankfully, God proved me wrong.

      I don’t expect I will ever have another engineering job, especially since I don’t have a degree or any college for that matter. So now I’m building guitar pedals for two different “boutique” companies and working two other part time jobs from the house just to make ends meet. That’s in addition to my wife working again after being a stay at home mom for 6 years from the time when my kids were babies.

      I wish I could just be the artist I was created to be, you know? Our society doesn’t really support artists. And from what I have seen, it’s rare to have a paid position at a church as a musician and/or worship leader.

      Anyway, that’s a rare thing to hear these days where your whole family is in the same place. My family is literally spread out between California all the way to Hungary. I don’t even know any of my cousins, aunts, uncles, etc. I’ve never met most of them.

      Sorry, I’m sure a lot of that I sound somewhat negative. I’m just frustrated with life right now. I know, things could always be worse.

  69. Yea I actually moved away and then missed that tight family bond so much I moved back. Plus Long Beach was a drag :)…

    Quick question… completely off topic… does anyone have any advice and/or opinions on vintage silvertone guitars and how their sound might work for a worship setting?

  70. Remember to rest in the living hope we have in Christ! Romans 8:28-30! I read that everytime I am down on life or ministry!

    Yea I actually moved away and then missed that tight family bond so much I moved back. Plus Long Beach was a drag :)…

    Quick question… completely off topic… does anyone have any advice and/or opinions on vintage silvertone guitars and how their sound might work for a worship setting?

  71. Paul–glad God took care of you! That sounds really scary. I’ll be praying for ya, brother. And what boutique companies? I’ll be sure to buy those ones! 🙂

    Ben G–I’ve not played one in a long time/ever (hard to remember these days…hehe), but from what I’ve heard, they’re good sounding, but very difficult to setup/keep in tune. I could be wrong, though.

      • Way to go Paul… You would have to put in a hyperlink to yet another boutique pedal builder… who’s got some excellent demos of the products they build… that built that kicking “Hot Wired” overdrive/distortion pedal for one of my favorite session players, Brent Mason… that just sounds ‘amazing’ and would be an excellent replacement for my Visual Sound “Jekyll & Hyde”. Must… resist… temptation… NOT!!!

        I couldn’t help myself. In about 10 to 12 weeks, I hope to see the UPS truck pull up to deliver my own “Hot Wired” pedal (in ‘fire orange’ — lol!).

        Paul, if the assignment to build it comes to you (I don’t know if you know for whom you build each pedal), be sure to sign it.

        Thanks again for sharing information about these folks — they build some really good stuff!

  72. Paul,
    After looking at some of those Wampler pedals, I am considering trying one or two. Hope it helps with the rent money for you some how!

    You are such a humble guy that you put me to shame! I just got so frustrated, I couldn’t take it anymore. I LOVED that channel of ministry and I truly regret I had to step down. You are a man’s man for staying in there and encouraging the youngins. I did that for a long time. They need another encourager now I guess.

    I would like to ask you brethren for prayer. Since this Sunday will possibly be my last ever serving on any worship team (mostly due to my age and onset of arthritis from playing so many years), I am feeling somewhat depressed. I have served with all of my heart faithfully for so many years in various churches through the years and it is difficult to let this part of my life pass on. I really don’t know where to go or what to do after this Sunday. Volunteering in any other compacity just doesn’t move me in any way. I believe God wants me to serve in an area of passion, not in one of necessity. I need prayer for new vision and direction. Is it possible that God is moving me into a solo career of session work and to be creative in that way? Don’t know, but gotta somehow figure out where 58 year old musician has-beens are supposed to go after going to pasture. I hope this doesn’t sound like a self-pity thing, I’m just feeling a little depressed after putting so much of myself into this ministry and then not having it anymore. Somehow licking envelopes at the church office just doesn’t sound like a God-thing to me…at least no now.
    I really enjoy you all and your wonderful input. I am encouraged by each and every one of you. What a jam session we’re gonna have in Heaven, woshipping our Father with all of our skill and love for Him! Bless you all…
    Blues Rocker

  73. Just remember Blues that no matter what faculty you are serving in, wether it be licking envelopes or picking up trash on campus… if your attitude is correct that God sees it as the perfect act of worship! I’ll be praying for you big time man!

  74. Dear brother Blues,

    I realize I’ll eventually be faced with the same question of, “O.K. Lord, what next?” My prayers are with you as you prepare to address this question. I’m confident of the Lord’s faithfulness on your behalf. Please keep us updated on your journey of faith.

    Your brother, Mike

  75. Thanks Ben and Mike! Appreciate the prayers!

    O.K., bro, I want to grow musically. If you could recommend one U2 CD for me to “try to get into them,” (I actually can’t believe my own words)…which would it be, early or late?
    I feel I owe it to you for tis great forum! Just sayin’…

    Blues Rocker

  76. In my opinion Late… Joshua Tree was kind of the culmination of the Edge’s style with delays. There are so many good songs on there… either that one or Unforgettable Fire is another great one. If you want I can send you both of these albums over e-mail so you won’t be out the money 🙂

    • Unforgettable Fire is one of my personal favorites. I like the whole atmosphere of that album. None of their other albums tickle me the way that one does. 🙂

  77. Mike Oliver –

    Yeah, Brian Wampler has a good ear. He is also going to be releasing a Brad Paisely overdrive soon (I believe). I built the prototype for him a couple of months ago now.

    And, by the way, I can do a mod to the Jeckyll & Hyde that will really make it more to your liking.

    Sorry, I don’t personally build the Hot Wired model. That is a cool looking pedal, isn’t it?

    Blues Rocker –

    I don’t think that you’ll be disappointed with any of Wampler’s current offerings.

  78. Killer discussion. Man, there’s a lot of humble guys here, and I bet most of you could play circles around me. Right on! I’m blessed to be a part of this.

    And Blues Rocker…I’m humbled that you’d even ask that. 🙂 I’d honestly probably suggest How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb. I think there’s a real maturity and blues roots to some of the songs on that album. (Especially if you skip the first track. 😉 Fun song, but takes a few listens to grow on you.)

    But here’s a couple to get started on:




    • Gents,
      Thanks for the prayers as I look into a new direction.

      I can now say that I have watched a whole U2 video without cringing! Well, at least it’s a step, right?! 😉
      “Grace” was really good…loved the message. I couldn’t get into the first two videos, Karl, but I did give them a good try. But I did watch the whole of Grace.
      So now, I’ve listened to Beautiful Day all the way through and the video Grace. Wow!

      Ben, gracious offer, bro, but I think I’ll just buy one of their CD’s and own it instead. Might make me try to get into it a little more.

      Blues Rocker

      • haha Right on, brother! I know it must’ve been difficult, so huge props to you. Sorry you couldn’t get into the first 2…I was trying to find some with some bluesiness in them. hehe But Grace is amazing. So glad you liked it!! 😀 And if you want to just skip to Edge’s blues solo in the first video, it’s at about 3:00.

        And ya, Joshua Tree is a great one to buy, and maybe Dismantle. And then Grace is a cut off of All You Can’t Leave Behind, which is a great one also.

        Alright, so you listened to some U2. 🙂 My turn. Educate me, my friend! What music should I be exposing myself to? Cheers, brother!

  79. Hey Karl,

    This is Nathan, I’ve recently posted a bit on your Damage Control Timeline thread, I’ve really appreciated all the incredibly helpful advice you’ve given me, it’s lead me to actually buying a Timeline (should be here tomorrow!).

    Anyhoo, I wanted to get ahold of you again because I feel like I’m kind of stuck with my setup right now, I’m just not satisfied with it. My brother and I are looking to record an EP together this summer so on top of the pressure I’m under to finish a lot of the parts for the songs, I’m trying to work out all the kinks in my rig… so yeah, it’s been at least a few hours a night on different blogs/threads/forums/youtube trying to find help. I’ve gotten some decent direction from there, but I finally just had an epitome tonight: “ask Karl” ha ha. I just feel like you’ve got an incredible sense for how to get great tone, especially for the type of style I play, in my stuff with my brother and in worship too. I just feel like my pedalboard setup is an issue and I don’t know where exactly to go… I don’t expect for you to solve all my problems, but I at least figured I’d drop you a line and ask for a hand. Thanks a bajillion in advance, brother. Oh, and in case it’s easier for you (and because I’d feel selfish if I completely jacked this thread :/ ) my email is nhuesmann at gmail.com. Thank you thank you thank you!

  80. Hey Nathan! Not sure how much help I’ll be, but I’ll do my best! Either here or on email is fine. If you do it here, others can chime in when I don’t know the answers. 🙂 But over email, I might be able to give more focused answers. Totally up to you, bro. But I’m at karl@getlife.tv if you decide to go the email route. Cheers!

  81. Hey, Karl, how are you? Congrats with the new page – it looks great! I guess you have been busy lately, but mail me if you want and can… i guess my mails got lost again 😀

    Take care!


  82. Thanks, bro. Ya, definitely been busy. And I haven’t been getting any emails from you. Did you see my email address change? Go to the ‘Email’ link at the top of the site, and it should have my current one.

    Hope you are well!

    • oh… your email address changed… that’s probably why you didn’t get any email from me 😀

      and yeah, i’m great! hope you’re good too, it seems like you’ve been going through some changes lately… i’ll totally write you soon

      Take care


  83. Hey what do you think of Paul Baloche and Ben Gowell? They’re part of a seminar in Minneapolis that my church is going to in February. I looked up some youtube vidoes, and Ben seems like a real chill dude. He’s got a decent-sized p-board too. 😀

  84. Michael–sorry I missed this comment!

    Um…if it has tube, go for it. 🙂 There we go.

    Caleb–I actually really like the stuff Ben Gowell writes. He has a great melodic sense and a very good knowledge of how to use effects.

    Paul Baloche, I love, without necessarily loving his music. Both his music and his interviews seem to show that he really ‘gets it.’ He writes songs that his particular congregation can worship to; and that’s his whole focus. While that makes me not so hip on most of his songs, it is as I see it, the point of singular congregational worship leading.

  85. Got back from the Baloche/Gowell seminar yesterday. Really enjoyed it. Gowell is talented in so many styles of music (modern worship, funk, country, jazz, rock, etc.) and a cool dude. He was playing out of a Fender Bassman; I’d never seen one up close before and couldn’t believe there were 4 speakers crammed into that thing! It was a 10,000-12,000 member church near Minneapolis. Wow they have resources–incredible building and worship center.

    Oh, and he likes his bigsby tremolos. He was playing some guitar called “ternity” or something like that–looked like a custom-made Tele-styled guitar. Anyway, it was great, and he has some nice tips about three-note voicings.

  86. This is a long post–heads up–but I wrote this on ben gowell’s forum board based on my reflections from what I’d learned:



    Went to the LeadWorship workshop at Hosanna Lutheran Church in MN this last weekend (2/18-2/19). Wanted to say I appreciated your time Ben, and your friendly, laid-back, helpful approach. I was going to add the following during one of the sessions, but I didn’t want to take up too much time, so here it is. When you were talking about chord voicings (i.e. 5 barre chords, the E, A, C, D, and G positions), I thought it would have been good to mention moving the “F” chord up and down the fretboard and hammering/pulling off with extra notes. I’m referring to the 4-string “F Chord” xx3211, which is essentially the same shape as the E-shaped barre chord, with these two bonuses:

    1) It eliminates the low E and A bass string, thus becoming more “middy” and “trebly,” cutting through the mix.
    2) You can add your pinky on various frets to alternate the chord and create a punchy rhythm (think “We Give You Glory”) by Jeremy Camp.

    In my experience, playing guitar is one of those weird things where things click and afterward you think, “that should have been obvious.” I.e., the “tip” I offered makes sense if you think that the first fret E-barre chord is an F with two lower bass notes, but for whatever reason, perhaps because there is so much to learn elsewhere, we guitarists don’t think that way. Also, I’ll add, while I’ve self-studied some music theory and played piano and trumpet, many of the guys at my church don’t know much about it, so they’re sort of going by touch rather than sight.

    Second thing. When you talk about the G-shaped barre chord, which is really the A-one, it would be helpful to mention how it relates to the scale positions. This is another of those “duh” moments, but really, it took me a while to figure it out. So you’re example has the G on the 12th fret with the D,G,B strings–even a simple thing like, “By the way, when you’re playing in the key of G and find the root note (15th fret), go down three half-steps to the relative minor (12th) fret, and not only are you at the most basic pentatonic scale every guitarist knows, but you’re starting point, the D,G,B strings that you barre with your index finger on the 12th fret, that’s a G chord! Fantastic right?” I think that most guitarists either learn scales or notes, and even if they learn both, don’t always connect the two. It’s helped me a lot to say, “Ok, I’m in the key of G. Since C is the IV chord, and since the notes from the A-shaped barre chord for C on the G,B strings are on the 5th fret, I’m gonna match the chord there with the right pattern (position 3), and since the D chord (V) is on the 7th fret (same logic), it goes with position 4.” This may sound more complicated, but it’s actually helped me because

    a) I know what the notes are on the “A” string. And instead of saying, “Well, the C-root note is on the A string 3rd fret so I’ll start on the 3rd fret, I just add 2 frets (where I barre the G,B,D strings with my ring finger), and say, Ok, 5th fret it is.”
    b) Subsequently, I don’t have to think in terms of sliding my scales together, or worse, having to play the notes in between to get from one to the other, but instead I say, “Ok, I want to move around, I’m gonna start soloing off of where the D chord is.”

    I don’t know if there’s any benefit in a different “sound” with this, but it makes thinks easier to orient yourself around the fretboard. I am also incorporating “thirds” on the G,B string when I think about this. They have been very helpful in thinking about small chords going up and down the neck.

    Anyway, I’m not even close to your playing level, just got back into guitar after four years of undergrad w/little time for hobbies, so I’ve been relearning stuff and it’s been good to get the basics grounded in. By the way, I thought your workshop was great. It was encouraging because I’m already moving in the direction you suggest, and because the triad voicings you gave offer a lot more “a ha!” moments to be had (I can already see “fragments” of different Barre chords interspersed there).

    Thanks again man and keep blessing others with your God-given talent and character.

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  88. Hey Karl! I’ve been following your blog for a while now and I really love your Damage Control Timeline and I have scoured the internet searching for it with no luck. Any ideas where I should look?

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